Need help please- setting radios up

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Hi everyone,

Hopefully someone can help me out.

My employer recently bought new two ways finally as we needed replacements. I don’t know where he got them from all that was given to me was a box and i was told to have fun setting them up.

I am not the best technology wise and am having trouble getting them to work.

I typed the product code: CVSB-J48-220V-2GEN into google to try and get more info/help and couldn’t find anything except product info.

http://trotti-shop-business.myshopify.com/products/long-range-walkie-talkie-set-3-5-km-autonomia-uhf-vox-220v was one site i found with the type of radio i was given.

If anyone could give me a hand with info it would be appreciated.

What I need to do is set 10 radios up so that we can send/receive to each other within the business.

Not sure if there is a way so that we can only hear what we say to each other and not anyone else transmissions and if we will get interference from others and not hear messages.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

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That is a chinese radio I am not familiar with.

Before the radios will communicate with each other they need to be programmed to the same frequencies. If they were purchased new, they may or may not have frequencies pre-programmed into them, depending on the type of radio. Unless you can program them directly from the keypad, you will need to obtain programming hardware and software. Either way, you will need a manual with instructions.

I am guessing that you aren’t in the US, since these radios have a charging base that operates on 220V.

First, what radios are these replacing? Are they VHF or UHF radios? What frequencies do they currently use?

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they are replacing Motorola GP328Plus, i think they use UHS?

We turned 2 units on to test them and we can communicate, but we are getting random static bursts when neither of us are talking, so not sure if we are getting other peoples transmissions or not.

I as given these details for the old units transmission 450, receiving 527, but we didn’t set them up, it was done by the company that looked after it, they just stopped business with them as it was too expensive.

I know they probably ardent compatible as they use different frequencies and we will be replacing the old ones fully,so storing them as back ups just in case.

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The Motorola could be either UHF or VHF and there seem to be several versions of the UHF model. As long as it supports some of the frequencies on the chinese radio, technically they should be able to talk to each other if they were programmed to do so on frequencies within the range of both.

We turned 2 units on to test them and we can communicate, but we are getting random static bursts when neither of us are talking, so not sure if we are getting other peoples transmissions or not.

You probably need to adjust the squelch on the radios.

I as given these details for the old units transmission 450, receiving 527, but we didn’t set them up, it was done by the company that looked after it, they just stopped business with them as it was too expensive.

If you don’t know your frequencies, you will need to either go back to the company and get them, find another company that can read them from the radio or obtain the USB programming cable and software for the GP328Plus and pull the frequencies from the radios to a PC.

According to the product information, 450-527MHz is outside the frequency range of those Chinese radios, so if the frequencies on the Motorola radios are in that range, you won’t be able to use them on the new radios.

Since these radios are sold in Australia, I am guessing that is where you are. I am not familiar with the licensing requirements in Australia but if you are located there and if you were assigned those specific frequencies, those are the ones you will probably need to program into the new radios. You may need to contact the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) to find out what the rules and regulations are.

I know they probably ardent compatible as they use different frequencies and we will be replacing the old ones fully,so storing them as back ups just in case.

Did you receive a manual with the chinese radios? If they are programmable from the keypad, the manual may have instructions. If not, you will need to contact the company that sold you the radios and obtain one.

Your employer seems to have given you a task without the information or the tools you need to accomplish it. Sometimes the cost in time and productivity of trying to do something yourself is greater the expense of having it done by a reputable company that specializes in such tasks. Based on what you described, he may need to just go ahead and pay the necessary expense for working radios.

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A wise man once said to me, if you competition wants to give away radios - let em.

A small radio shop cannot compete with a large shop or with a mass merchantdiser - the internet. The only thing you can control is the cost of your labor.

If your competition gives away radios long enough, at some point, they will no longer be your competition.

Your employer was penny wise and dollar foolish.

That type of radio will never replace what you are mothballing and in a couple of years, you will be looking for new batteries for the Motorola’s and wishing that you never wasted your money on the Chinese ****.

Tell your boss to send those pieces of **** back and to buy new batteries and forget about trying to program these new radios.

The man in the two way radio shop isn’t trying to rip you off.
He has over head - along with the need to feed his family and pay his bills - just like you and me!
If he gets the batteries for $65.00 American and sells them for $75.00 - he isn’t making much, if anything after taxes!

Buying a new $49.00 Chinese radio, doesn’t solve the problem in the long term, it just masks the problem.

You might wonder why I say this or why I even bother to waste my time sticking my neck out like this.

I have seen this in the radio buisness before.
Even the CB radio went through this phase.

The first units made in the USA were real quality.
Then around 1972 the Japanese came out with the cheap Cobra type **** and the quality manufacturers couldn’t compete and all went out of buisness or did other things. Once the competition was run out of buisness, there was no reason to make anything of any quality and the quality was replaced by flashing colored lights and chrome, a deletion of a power meter and a good microphone and cheapening it to the point of where it wasn’t worth buying anymore.

Eventually Motorola, Vertex, Icom, Johnson will stop investing money in improvements and upgrades and will go into protection mode and eventually they will stop making handhelds because they cannot compete with a lesser quality product. When the market is driven by price and not be quality, the quality will always suffer.

The cell phones just keeps getting better and better, and smaller and smaller, while the two way radio market becomes stagnant.
The technology is being put into the batteries and the antenna’s right now.
The manufacturer is making a more durable product, smaller and more complex to work on.
It eventually drives the two way radio shop right out of buisness.

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Sorry to get off topic here but I kind of agree with Tower Tech, but there will always be businesses who use 2-ways. While the consumer market may go the way of cheap and inexpensive units the professionals will continue to use quality radios. At least that’s what I’ve seen in the industry here lately. Consumers buy cheaper Chinese stuff and the businesses continue to spend the money for good radios. They view it as a cost of doing business and if inventing in good quality units pays off.

So, I too have to agree. Send the radios back and get batteries. Save yourself the trouble and headache. I have played with the Baofeng units and would not recommend them for professional use at all, actually I think the target market for those may actually be kids at best.

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I don’t familiar with this, have you ever tried the youtube, to see if there are any instrution about it.